THE TWILIGHT ZONE

You ideas, please:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=165493&st=120

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

Working on it Abe.

You will not believe it, but I am really glad you took the trouble to even respond.

That site is filled to the brim with believers in anything out of the ordinary, but also with skeptics fighting them.

Now I come along, and present all of them with a submerged, post ice-age country, a country that submerged in 6100 BC.

A country submerged by the most gigantic tsunami in history (by the "Storegga Slide", google it), a country between present day England and Scandinavia.

They don't know how to respond because it's REAL.

None of their dreams can tell them about it.

But it did happen.

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

So what exactly do you want to say here ?
That Atlantis was Doggerland ?


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IF this was true, I would find it rather delightfully ironic.

Will this link help you in your research Abe ?
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bi ... 1;t=001528

" Blackbeard « Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:00 pm » No answers, only people afraid to think things over. I offer them something REAL, something weird, but no, it's too much for their capacity. Morons, idiots. Even their imagination fails them."

I'm surprised anyone bothers to post to you at all!

God No!! If you read the entire thread you will know I did everything to prevent any mention of Atlantis.

This is NOT about Atlantis.

And believe me A.R., I have read every webpage that has the word 'Doggerland' in it, so also the one you linked to.

Eventually you will find a website called "Atlantis in Ireland"....


BTW: A.R., I think you will find the next site to be quite interesting:

http://www.paabo.ca/uirala/index.html

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

I asked them friendly, and as time went by, I asked less friendly.

So, at the end, it was me and only me who dug up all the info that had any connection with the topic.

And that meant reading a LOT. And stuff like the Snorri Edda, try that one for a change, lol. Or Beowulfe... And then geological reports, archeological docs, DNA research, and so on.

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

I guess most of us just aren't interested enough to do all that work without getting paid for it!$$$$$$

Who wants to research someone called snoring eddie????

You would be surprized how many people really love to read stuff like that.

I did not, but I had to if I wanted to find anything that may point to Doggerland.

From what I read, Doggerlanders were a seafaring people, and it is assumed they also visited parts of Norway (aside from the other countries surrounding the present North Sea).

So it could be possible some account about them or the destruction of their homeland was saved in ancient myths, and maybe also in the Snorri Edda (Snorri was a medieval guy from Iceland who wrote down all he knew and heard of these ancient Norse legends).

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

This is the way I tend to look at things now Abe.

We are a small planet, farout on the edge of the milkyway galaxy, just one of a billion such galaxies and trillions upon trillions of planets that common sense tells me are inhabited with life at all stages of intelligence.

I have decided to patiently wait till one or more of those advanced societies decide to contact us with the intention to save us from ourselves and show us the error of our ways!

You'd probably call them missionaries, but it beats sittin around guessing and making up stuff about the past!

love and light
father road

LOL, so you think it's better 'sittin around guessing and making up stuff'' about the future instead?

If you visit that site I linked to, you'll see lots of threads from people fiercely believing in just that, aliens who will come and save us (or that these aliens messed with our genes and culture long ago). Most of it is based on writers who mangled facts and distorted ancient texts.

But in case you didn't read the thread about Doggerland, many things have already been found, many things were already known, I am just busy putting together the pieces of a puzzle.

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

Well, when you get the pieces of puzzle together you can compare them to the pictures and books and info the aliens probably can supply you with!

Then you can start on Atlantis...Lemuria and maybe the pyramids.

Find out all about our old gods and biblical heros ....might even have photographs or their version of U-Tube

I'm not making it up....I'm taking them at their word....I can afford a few more months Abe, pull up a chair, grab a drink and chill out!

BB ...


Isn't that what being passionate and having faith in something is all about, in general and ultimately as well.
The willingness and the ability to go for "it" alone ... (whatever "it" is). After all, in the end the sole responsibility of following one's interest or " following one's bliss" and managing to carry it through ... falls squarely on our own shoulders.
Isn't "going for it alone" also the way to launch one's "intent" (directing attention energy).
So why the "bitter pill" only. The other side of the "pill" is sweet.
Bitter sweet ... perfect balance.

And maybe the Universe or God (whatever) will "provide" ... but only if we put our faith in it and in our firm intent to co-create ... and let go of manipulating others (hence also letting go of expectations from others).
(Please don't take offence BB, I think that I am just "thinking out loud here", reminding myself mainly of what I need to do next).


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The Doggerland subject obviously is of interest to you and therefore no doubt it will hold a deeper meaning for you also. So keep at it, don't let the naysayers talk you out of it.
Even though it would be delightful to think that "Doggerlanders may have been (proto)-Finno-ugric" ... and I really do not know ... but I don't think so.

But. Weren't "Saami" the original hunter-gatherers of Europe, and don't Basques fall into the same indigenous European category as well ? (And aren't those two, - long ways related ?)

Had also been thinking before, because the same exact mutations of the 2 Saami mtDNA lines found in my family-trees are also found in among Uralic females .... and since the majority of the Saami males are Uralic N-Haplo ..... aaaand Saami speaks Uralic language __________ that; - who knows howwwww long ago in the past they mixed !
It is always said that Saami assimilated the Uralic language into their speech, but that just sounds so bloody arrogant, like hellooooo .... I mean ... how much would "Saami" wives influence and have an impact on their men and their offspring language and culture wise ! A LOT I would think. So perhaps Finno-Ugric culture and language is a result of that mixing also. (I suspect my dark gran is Saami DNA too, though could be in for a surprise, we'll see ... (and she relates to Crows and Ravens). And I suspect so many original Karelians are now finding this also, after all, one out of 5 or 6 females was Saami and before maybe even more ... and lots of families were/are related).

Had read the Uirala link before and I think that it is a bit far fetched, but I also do think that it does hold some noteworthy grains of truth. The earlier presumed Uralic-Altaic language group has been rejected for a long time now by linguists as not being genetic (just lots of same words because of cultural ect. exchange in the past). In it's place Uralo-Siberian language group is proposed and this supports the Uirala theory.
http://www.amazon.com/Language-Relation ... 0304703303

And yes, Inuits especially and "The People of the Waterfowl" were/are boat people. This sits right in my sense of things, the kinda feeling you feel in your bones. Also they may have very well left some indications of their past boating travels in that Doggerland area.
http://www.interspecies.com/pages/beluga%20spiral.html





I also think that the early Norse and Icelanders culture was influenced by the early residents, the Saami, Inuits and "The People of the Waterfowl" boating people connection. But just like the Finns, the Norse and the Icelanders perhaps too, do not give credit to the indigenous inhabitants for this, they just kinda "owned" it.

But that is just my opinion, which may not be the fact here.

You are not being serious I hope, Road? About those aliens, Atlantis and Lemuria I mean?

The reason not many participate in that thread on UM is simply because it doesn't mention aliens, incredibly advanced and ancient civilizations. pyramids and all that stuff.

Road, I have read about all that for many years, and gobbled it up like water. But after studying it I found out most is based on (intentional or unconscious) fabrication.

This thing about Doggerland is REAL, but alas, no flying saucers and magical crystals were found...

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...

A.R., the reason I said their language may have been proto Finno Ugric is because the Maglemosian culture, that ranged from eastern England to the Baltic, was not Indo European (those came much later), and there are indications that the language and the people speaking it were related to Finno Ugric.

Of course I have also read about the Basques, and it is now known that the Basques are genetically closest to the Celts of Ireland, Great Britain (=Wales) and Brittany (in France). But they lived south and west of the Maglemosian (that is, IF they were there already).

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I will check your links later, A.R.; I'm getting sleepy, lol.

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Zoom! What was that? That was your life, Mate! That was quick, do I get another? Sorry, Mate. Back to the world of dreams. Yes, dear? ...